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TOPIC: Carwin vs. Mir
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Carwin vs. Mir 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Looks like meathead is going to watch an interim title fight in his weight class. I really hope that he makes a full recovery so that he gets exposed for his lack of talent- that way we don't have to forever listen to a "legend that would have been."
Anyways, while Brock is recovering it looks like there will be an interim title fight coming between Mir and Carwin. See the article below, from this source.
I personally believe that Mir stands a much better chance at beating Carwin than Lesnar does. Lesnar's only attribute (size/strength) is negated vs Carwin because he is almost just as big. Versus Mir he is in there against a wealth of knowledge and experience. Should make for a good fight- but I wish that Carwin could beat up on Lesnar first before him and Mir took to it.
While Shane Carwin waits for the green light on a proposed interim heavyweight title bout against Frank Mir at UFC 111 on March 27 in Newark, N.J., preparations have already begun for the fighter’s training camp at the Grudge Training Center in Denver.
Carwin’s trainer, Trevor Whitman, said the fight with Mir, a former heavyweight champion, is one the camp gladly welcomes.
“I actually think this is a tougher fight than the Brock fight because I think Shane can shut down Brock’s size,” said Whitman, whose gym is the sister school to Greg Jackson’s Mixed Martial Arts Academy in Albuquerque, N.M. “When it comes to technical aspects of fighting, Mir has so much more experience and he looks like a new fighter recently.”
Though he’s a 1999 NCAA Div. II wrestling champion, Carwin has been noted more for his heavy hands, which have stopped all three of his opponents inside the Octagon in less than two minutes since his debut at UFC 84 in May 2008.
Whitman said that fans haven’t even seen what Carwin can do yet.
“It’s funny because you see Shane in these fights and he goes out there and demolishes these guys,” said Whitman. “When he fights he looks very awkward and that’s (because) you can’t see his skillset yet. He hasn’t even passed into his deep end yet, and when he’s in the gym (in) the second, third and fourth rounds, he keeps getting better and better. I really can’t wait to see him get into the deeper waters of the fight. He’s more relaxed and his abilities -- for a 280-pound guy –- he’s just so athletic.”
Carwin also has an inner drive to finish his opponents, said Whitman.
“The reason he goes out there and just demolishes guys is because he has this killer instinct in him,” said Whitman. “I told him he turns into the Hulk. I feel bad for anybody that punches him because he just loses it. The thing is he loses it in somewhat of a controlled way where he goes out there and gains a dominant position and finishes the fight. I really believe Shane is, by far, the best finisher in the heavyweight division right now.”
The 34-year-old Carwin, who was originally scheduled to challenge champion Brock Lesnar at UFC 106 on Nov. 21 in Las Vegas before Lesnar was hospitalized with a severe intestinal infection, didn’t hesitate when offered the interim bout with Mir, said his trainer.
“He wanted to wait for Brock, but the thing is we’re just getting stale on the shelf,” said Whitman. “We’ve been off for a year now, and that makes it very tough. I hope Brock gets better and I hope his illness is not extreme and I fully believe in Shane that we will beat Brock at some point.”
Mir, who flattened Cheick Kongo in 72 seconds at UFC 107 last weekend, seems a more than a suitable distraction as Carwin and the rest of the 265-pound division hold their breath for Lesnar’s return.
“The most important thing about a fight with Frank is that you can not get in a bad position,” said Whitman. “It’s all about dominating every position, and if you get in that (bad) position, it’s about working your way out of it. Mir’s skillset as an all-around fighter ... I think he’s the best pound-for-pound in the heavyweight division right now for having access in every area, whether it’s striking, kickboxing, strength or jiu-jitsu.”
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Last Edit: 2009/12/17 17:21 By Richard.
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Re:Carwin vs. Mir 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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And BTW- this fight is happening March 27. Any predictions?
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Re:Carwin vs. Mir 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Mir by split decision.
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Re:Carwin vs. Mir 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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All bets are off, there is no telling what the new pumped-up version of Frank Mir is capable of.
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Re:Carwin vs. Mir 7 Months, 1 Week ago
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Honestly can't see past Carwin KO, if he is fit enough to throw fast hands throughout the whole fight then he is bound to land one good one on Mir and if Gonzaga went down from a Carwin arm punch then I assume Mir will drop from a punch from Carwin too. I would rate Gonzaga alot higher than Mir on the ground and he couldn't keep Carwin down or attempt to submit him, I am gonna say Carwin won't get taken down and will get beaten by superior stand-up for two or three minutes then land a haymaker and its good night Irene. Saying that if he somehow gets him down(dropping him maybe) he could catch an arm or neck while they are down there and there isn't many that can finish submissions on the ground like Mir can, he breaks limbs and puts people out for fun and we don't see that elsewhere in the HW division. I'd much rather see Velasquez-Mir and Nog-Carwin though.
In the first fight Velasquez would not wanna take Mir down because he would get subbed quickly IMO and then Mir would have superior stand-up so Velasquez may be forced to swing for the fences. I think it would show how far Velasquez is from the elite in the HW division. Velasquez has no finishing power and so won't finish Big Nog, however he may finish Mir, whereas in a Carwin-Big Nog fight, Carwin has so much power even Big Nog may not be able to deal with it, Nog would have better boxing but could get caught anytime however if anyone could take the punishment from Carwin it would be Big Nog. It would be a paradox.
What makes these fights better is that Velasquez may finish Mir, Mir may finish Velasquez. Velasquez would not finish Big Nog(IMO) and Big Nog could finish him. Carwin could finish Nog and Nog could finish Carwin. Makes more sense for me to have two fights that could FINISH either way.
Me>>Joe Silva
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Re:Carwin vs. Mir 7 Months, 1 Week ago
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Carwin, KO, 1st round
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