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Re:Carwin vs. Mir 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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Richard wrote:
Looks like meathead is going to watch an interim title fight in his weight class. I really hope that he makes a full recovery so that he gets exposed for his lack of talent- that way we don't have to forever listen to a "legend that would have been."
Anyways, while Brock is recovering it looks like there will be an interim title fight coming between Mir and Carwin. See the article below, from this source.
I personally believe that Mir stands a much better chance at beating Carwin than Lesnar does. Lesnar's only attribute (size/strength) is negated vs Carwin because he is almost just as big. Versus Mir he is in there against a wealth of knowledge and experience. Should make for a good fight- but I wish that Carwin could beat up on Lesnar first before him and Mir took to it.
While Shane Carwin waits for the green light on a proposed interim heavyweight title bout against Frank Mir at UFC 111 on March 27 in Newark, N.J., preparations have already begun for the fighter’s training camp at the Grudge Training Center in Denver.
Carwin’s trainer, Trevor Whitman, said the fight with Mir, a former heavyweight champion, is one the camp gladly welcomes.
“I actually think this is a tougher fight than the Brock fight because I think Shane can shut down Brock’s size,” said Whitman, whose gym is the sister school to Greg Jackson’s Mixed Martial Arts Academy in Albuquerque, N.M. “When it comes to technical aspects of fighting, Mir has so much more experience and he looks like a new fighter recently.”
Though he’s a 1999 NCAA Div. II wrestling champion, Carwin has been noted more for his heavy hands, which have stopped all three of his opponents inside the Octagon in less than two minutes since his debut at UFC 84 in May 2008.
Whitman said that fans haven’t even seen what Carwin can do yet.
“It’s funny because you see Shane in these fights and he goes out there and demolishes these guys,” said Whitman. “When he fights he looks very awkward and that’s (because) you can’t see his skillset yet. He hasn’t even passed into his deep end yet, and when he’s in the gym (in) the second, third and fourth rounds, he keeps getting better and better. I really can’t wait to see him get into the deeper waters of the fight. He’s more relaxed and his abilities -- for a 280-pound guy –- he’s just so athletic.”
Carwin also has an inner drive to finish his opponents, said Whitman.
“The reason he goes out there and just demolishes guys is because he has this killer instinct in him,” said Whitman. “I told him he turns into the Hulk. I feel bad for anybody that punches him because he just loses it. The thing is he loses it in somewhat of a controlled way where he goes out there and gains a dominant position and finishes the fight. I really believe Shane is, by far, the best finisher in the heavyweight division right now.”
The 34-year-old Carwin, who was originally scheduled to challenge champion Brock Lesnar at UFC 106 on Nov. 21 in Las Vegas before Lesnar was hospitalized with a severe intestinal infection, didn’t hesitate when offered the interim bout with Mir, said his trainer.
“He wanted to wait for Brock, but the thing is we’re just getting stale on the shelf,” said Whitman. “We’ve been off for a year now, and that makes it very tough. I hope Brock gets better and I hope his illness is not extreme and I fully believe in Shane that we will beat Brock at some point.”
Mir, who flattened Cheick Kongo in 72 seconds at UFC 107 last weekend, seems a more than a suitable distraction as Carwin and the rest of the 265-pound division hold their breath for Lesnar’s return.
“The most important thing about a fight with Frank is that you can not get in a bad position,” said Whitman. “It’s all about dominating every position, and if you get in that (bad) position, it’s about working your way out of it. Mir’s skillset as an all-around fighter ... I think he’s the best pound-for-pound in the heavyweight division right now for having access in every area, whether it’s striking, kickboxing, strength or jiu-jitsu.” I think it is a little more like Carwin's size and strength are negated I watched a lot of Carwin's fights no big difference in what Brock has done only Carwin has done it against lesser opponents. Mir wins by K.O.
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MPMEnt (User)
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Re:Carwin vs. Mir 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago
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Although i'd like to see this fight (Mir vs Carwin) I really hate to see Carwin possible lose his chance at Lesner's title! I would rather have the UFC strip meathead of his title and bypass an interim title. Once the freak is healthy he can once again make a run at the championship. Anyone else think the interim title is a waste of time?
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Re:Carwin vs. Mir 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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MPMEnt wrote:
Once the freak is healthy he can once again make a run at the championship.
Although I completely agree with you, it won't happen that way. Hell, Dana didn't even make him fight his way to the top when he was a daisy fresh rookie in the UFC. Let's look back......
0-1 in the UFC, highest paid fighter by the UFC...
1-1 in the UFC, #1 title contender for the HW division ???
2-1 in the UFC, HW champion ?!?
He won't be fighting his way up through anything. Dana has proven that. If he fights again, and when he loses- I fully expect an immediate rematch or some other circus act of special circumstances.
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Re:Carwin vs. Mir 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Richard wrote:
MPMEnt wrote:
Once the freak is healthy he can once again make a run at the championship.
Although I completely agree with you, it won't happen that way. Hell, Dana didn't even make him fight his way to the top when he was a daisy fresh rookie in the UFC. Let's look back......
0-1 in the UFC, highest paid fighter by the UFC...
1-1 in the UFC, #1 title contender for the HW division ???
2-1 in the UFC, HW champion ?!?
He won't be fighting his way up through anything. Dana has proven that. If he fights again, and when he loses- I fully expect an immediate rematch or some other circus act of special circumstances. Don't worry guys I have called the Waaaaambulance. MPMEnt welcome to Richard's Brock Haters Band Wagon of America I am sure you will be a great addition. Hmmmm Meathead. Yes haven't heard that one yet. Merry Christmas everybody.
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Re:Carwin vs. Mir 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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tron smith wrote:
Don't worry guys I have called the Waaaaambulance. MPMEnt welcome to Richard's Brock Haters Band Wagon of America I am sure you will be a great addition. Hmmmm Meathead. Yes haven't heard that one yet. Merry Christmas everybody.
LOL-- well I'm sorry, Tron. With you so diligently on Brock's nuts, there was no more room for anyone else!
Go ahead and accept my apology...
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Re:Carwin vs. Mir 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Accepted! Have a great Christmas and let me know if your going to be down for the holidays I actually have them all off for a change.
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