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Re:Brock Lesnar 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 2027  
LOL... Let's all protect poor little Lesnar...
 
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Re:Brock Lesnar 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 10  
Tabwyo wrote:
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makes me wanna put you into a category of people that believe auschwits never happened

I had family die in that camp, and others, thank you. Might want to think twice befor making it really personal. Just because I don't agree with you doesnt call for labeling me a F-ing Nazi.

People that don't believe the holocaust happened aren't necessarily nazis.

Plus I lost a grand uncle in it as well, the point wasn't a dig about the holocaust it was just an example of such people ignoring plain fact just because they don't want to believe it.

Im sorry you lost family in it, I wasn't getting at that and you know it. I was simply saying that you are ignoring the amount of people backing up the story due to a hunch that you think he could get away with such a hoax.
 
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Re:Brock Lesnar 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 50  
I think you are intentionally ignoring the fact that I never said he was faking anything. I did say that I think there is something fishy about the way Dana White and the Fertitta's have circled the wagons around Lesnar. Because in the past you got little more than an offhand comment from White or some blurb in a press release concerning injured or ill fighters.

After battling stomach cancer twice. I am more than pretty familiar with GI ailments. And to me the actions taken on the part of the medical professionals caring for Lesnar seem really drastic for what is reported to be wrong with him. It just seems that the information put out there is there to intentionally mislead people as to the real problem.

It may be that he has something extremely serious wrong with him but it's causes may be damaging to Lesnars image as a "legit" fighter. Or damaging to the UFC for catipulting him into MMA superstardom.

Or it could very well just be a string of reletively minor illnesses and injuries that has set Lesnar back. And the powers that be in the UFC that have a vested intrest in keeping Lesnar in the title position have put a spin on the situation making it seem much worse than it is without actually flat out lieing. Thus allwing Lesnar the time needed to get back to the 100% he'll have to be in order to handle a contender like Carwin.

In the end I guess I have lost all faith in the UFC. And it isn't a very long stretch of the imagination to think they'd intentionally manipulate a situation for the better of the company regardless of the damage to the sport. There is a fine line to be walked when making a business out of a sport. And up till now the UFC hasn't seemed to ever give a second thought to landing on the money end vs doing what is right in the sense of a sport.
 
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Last Edit: 2009/11/23 19:33 By Tabwyo.
 
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Re:Brock Lesnar 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 6  
I dislike Broke Lesnar, but do you really think a competitor like him will not fake an ailment. Forming propaganda around a situation is honestly ridiculous, and it seems that it is only fueled by some pointless hatred towards Lesnar and a source that is not reputable what so ever(The internet).

This forum has seriously deteriorated in quality because certain people take things far too personal and blow simple words out of proportion.
 
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Re:Brock Lesnar 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 50  
Don't be so vague Killagina. If you are going to throw the "certain people" tag out there. You might as well name names. Basing ones opinions soully off of internet forums is irrational, I agree. Be it positive or negative. But blindly accepting information released to the public on the part of anybody wth any measure of celebrity at face value is just as irrational. There is a whole career field out there called "Public Relations". And their only job is to spin everything to make their clients smell like roses.

Here's my conspiracy theory in a nutshell for those of you who won't do the reserch. Early Steroid abuse and current HGH use is the primary and direct cause of the Diverticulitus that Lesnar had to have corrective surgery for.

*Diverticulitus presents in less that 5% of the American population under the age of 40.
*Diverticulitus is a "common" condition experieced by pacients undergoing steroid therapy for physical and or autoimmune disorders. Mind you this is pescribed steroid therapy. Imagine the damage caused by the overuse associated with the stacks that athletes use.
*Lesnar was arrested and later exonorated on trafficing charges where the controled substance was believed to be Steroids. Turns out that the substance in question was ambiguously idetified as "some type of growth hormone".
*HGH abuse side effects closely mimic those of anabolic steriod abuse.
*The most reliable screen for HGH use is a blood test.
*Currently athletic commissions only sceen for substance abuse via a broad spectrum urine panel. Currently there is no reliable urine test protocol accepted by any regulatory commission for HGH.


Do I think Lesnar is faking? No.
Do I think it would be in Lesnar's and the UFC's best interest to intentionally downplay and or deny any corrilation between Lesnar's current situation and performance enhacing drugs? Yeppers.
 
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Re:Brock Lesnar 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 2027  
I don't think that anyone (other than Tron) dismisses the fact that Lesnar either IS or AT LEAST used to be on steroids. I don't think that's a big stretch.

I hope the guy gets better and recovers so that we can watch another monster knock his cocky ass off his given UFC throne. Of course- he'll always have this excuse now as to why he wasn't a direct God-Send to MMA.
 
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